{"id":16900,"date":"2025-05-27T10:37:47","date_gmt":"2025-05-27T10:37:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/getoutratracemascot.com\/?p=16900"},"modified":"2025-05-27T10:41:55","modified_gmt":"2025-05-27T10:41:55","slug":"quantum-consciousness-debate-does-the-wave-function-actually-exist-penrose-faggin-kastrup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/getoutratracemascot.com\/index.php\/2025\/05\/27\/quantum-consciousness-debate-does-the-wave-function-actually-exist-penrose-faggin-kastrup\/","title":{"rendered":"Quantum Consciousness Debate: Does the Wave Function Actually Exist? | Penrose, Faggin &#038; Kastrup"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"16900\" class=\"elementor elementor-16900\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-66635d75 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"66635d75\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-340007c7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-spacer\" data-id=\"340007c7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"spacer.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-spacer-inner\"><\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-6933fcd1 e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"6933fcd1\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1690959c elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"1690959c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/getoutratracemascot.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SO-Blog-Posts-Template-21-1.webp\" class=\"attachment-full size-full wp-image-16904\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/getoutratracemascot.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SO-Blog-Posts-Template-21-1.webp 1000w, https:\/\/getoutratracemascot.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SO-Blog-Posts-Template-21-1-300x150.webp 300w, https:\/\/getoutratracemascot.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/05\/SO-Blog-Posts-Template-21-1-768x384.webp 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7cf8caaf elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7cf8caaf\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"flex flex-grow flex-col max-w-full\"><div class=\"min-h-[20px] text-message flex flex-col items-start whitespace-pre-wrap break-words [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-5 juice:w-full juice:items-end overflow-x-auto gap-2\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"2ed0c4d1-5dc2-4db9-afe8-7a50ff8a24df\"><div class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 juice:empty:hidden juice:first:pt-[3px]\"><div class=\"markdown prose w-full break-words dark:prose-invert light\"><h1 class=\"style-scope ytd-watch-metadata\">Quantum Consciousness Debate: Does the Wave Function Actually Exist? | Penrose, Faggin &amp; Kastrup<\/h1><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">Two giants of science and technology\u2014Nobel Laureate in physics, Sir Roger Penrose, and inventor of the microprocessor, Federico Faggin\u2014meet to discuss their ideas on the relationship between Quantum Physics and consciousness, with the special participation of our own Bernardo Kastrup. <\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">While always respectful and congenial, the participants don&#8217;t shy away from disagreements. Their starting difference regards Quantum Theory itself: while Federico Faggin and Bernardo Kastrup allow its implications to inform their views, Sir Roger Penrose believes the theory itself to be at least incomplete and require further development. <\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">The discussion helps pin down and make explicit the fine points of the three gentlemen&#8217;s respective ideas regarding consciousness. Roger Penrose&#8217;s and Stuart Hameroff&#8217;s original paper:<\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\" style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><a class=\"yt-core-attributed-string__link yt-core-attributed-string__link--call-to-action-color\" style=\"color: #ff6600;\" tabindex=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDRCZHdCR1VZLW1NeFBEYS1vN0J2WXh1czh2UXxBQ3Jtc0tsaDcyTjRHRTVpYllvdW9FbWNDVVBsYkw2WUR6d3pFVl91SUI2ckphcHpRcjdrTDRrdC1rcGY2d0o0amlFdzg2TWpjLXp2MWktMXZwQ250V0tkRGYyMHIyVFBnSzdfQ1JHQjloeVBINGlQdnJxZ3hXTQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fdoi.org%2F10.1098%2Frsta.1998.0254&amp;v=0nOtLj8UYCw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1098\/rsta.1998.0254<\/a><\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\">Federico Faggins paper with Mauro D&#8217;Ariano:<\/span><\/p><p><span class=\"yt-core-attributed-string--link-inherit-color\" dir=\"auto\" style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><a class=\"yt-core-attributed-string__link yt-core-attributed-string__link--call-to-action-color\" style=\"color: #ff6600;\" tabindex=\"0\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbGdQQTI0a0x2c09yZXREM1ZNN19fQTVfMFRkQXxBQ3Jtc0ttd3FsVmFELVNDcDljQ0xCcHBjdG83SENkdDRyaEdrOHU1T3ZYR1hnU19IZFpmbFY5UVpheWRHN3h5eHc0VkJXcGUxTVhiVi1wZUlPNnpqeEJTd3QzTUdXZDhtakVjNDBXY19ZZHhFaHZKTWNfbW0wRQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fabs%2F2012.06580&amp;v=0nOtLj8UYCw\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2012.06580<\/a> <\/span><\/p><p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><a style=\"color: #ff6600;\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/0nOtLj8UYCw?si=h-pzpfwpO7kjX6td\">Watch Video<\/a><\/span><\/strong><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quantum Consciousness Debate: Does the Wave Function Actually Exist? | Penrose, Faggin &amp; Kastrup Two giants of science and technology\u2014Nobel Laureate in physics, Sir Roger Penrose, and inventor of the microprocessor, Federico Faggin\u2014meet to discuss their ideas on the relationship between Quantum Physics and consciousness, with the special participation of our own Bernardo Kastrup. 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